Drew Brown is a freelance writer living in St. John's, Newfoundland. He grew up in Grand Falls-Windsor, a small town in Central Newfoundland. Once upon a time he was a PhD candidate in political science, writing a dissertation about affect theory and the Canadian museum of history. He has since quit grad school to write for money. He and Michael discuss growing up in a small-scale apocalypse, angry teen boys who fall for Ayn Rand, epiphanies on public transport, quitting PhD programs, and whether there is cause to hope for the future (probably there is).