4. Kid Gloves / The Thin Place.

Emily thinks the world would be a better place if everyone read Lucy Knisley’s graphic novel account of her difficult pregnancy, Kid Gloves, while Michael rhapsodizes about experiments in empathy and postmodern mysticism spurred on by Kathryn Davis’s The Thin Place. They talk about myths and misconceptions of pregnancy, pain, sex ed, medieval mysticism, and whether reading teaches empathy.

Show Notes.

Kid Gloves by Lucy Knisley.

The Thin Place by Kathryn Davis.

The Dollop’s “Childbirth in America” podcast (in part about twilight sleep).

Lucy Knisley’s Instagram.

Judy Blume by Amanda Palmer.

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